Good morning and welcome South Carolina from the middle and still they upstate we are happy to have you join the yard pro show this morning brought to you by high Carolina fresh farms. I'm mills ran your host this morning Saturday December to 72 rather chilly. Little misty running perhaps freezing ranked thank you to my hands are freezing rain variety and I am your host and I'm not along today we have a guests. I guess what Colin guest cohost what are you size so Sean Conley good friend of mine from mob club at Brookstone Matta those. Down in Anderson, South Carolina has agreed as Scott is away chuck say hello this morning you're only here. In mourning her yeah this is the new and exciting venture for me he's them this round rattling off guard taken on the golf course I've. Sin and radius the two. With Diaz is a pretty actually an exciting so we'll see what it's all about. Where it's it's a lot of fun you know left. I've had DOS Scott Carlson many times from its not a tree care. And and not philosophy going back several years ago when we got back to doing the show. Was to give knowledge to people about pork cultural issues within their long their landscape may be its business property. Maybe they just have an interest is amazing I get a text. About wants marked from a listener who lose and I Condo complex and even on Columbus that's a great show I enjoy listening people enjoyed gardening. And I enjoyed being outdoors I like to know what might sling stick what makes it grow what makes a better or what's causing problems so. I'm chuck to symbolize that pressure it's coming on air bastion of several times but being a golf superintendent and non. There Brookstone matter ocean and so. Recently sold I guess this past year and my deer cam and you to the Brookstone modest and down later and you all went through. It. Well it was going to be a greens renovation but it's more than big things renovation at this point all new tee boxes are a couple fairways were. On the re grated expanded and what have yet to have to make. Aren't tuned to provide better plane builder you have great goals Tom Jackson got in front it is yes original design not Tom Jackson. For those on the loose resides here in Greenville, South Carolina. Com so and in Troy Vincent. I decide how to Georges who you know brought in four. The renovation. Architectural renovation order so. That you edge off got a lot of neat things one moment we do calm you know tumbling comp. Is the primary owner. And has been a part of brut sun since the inception of what is Bruce come back and the delayed ninety's and saw an opportunity. Lows Anderson wanted to kind of give banks saw an opportunity to take Brookstone. We're used to be Bristow menace in. Rebrand the club and making the club or Brookstone slew. Brought me in I was fortunate enough to be brought on by guy by the name McGregor rushing used the general manager. A director golf finger aged. Has been in the industry for quite awhile hadn't. Quite a few give relationships and one of those was to bring Troy Vincent and so you what Troy he's done this yet. Put his little. Designing. Aspect. Two willow was any Tom Jackson design and and really. Trying to improve some of them the shortcomings of what was Bristow meant as we still got a long way to go. Bomb but from a design aspect I think we've made the golf course better. Are we tour from bent grass greens Bermuda grass greens we gives us a lot more flexibility especially in the summertime to. Really focused more on the conditions of the golf course trying to. Present the best playing playable golf courses that we can best those conditions that we can so rooting for begin until next season. While we are open now. And after I believe it's 11 o'clock we're allowed you know allowing them to the general public to come out take a look around I guess for lack of better term kick the tires deceive is something that is like so. Come on out and take a look. Then greatness is located their run off highway anymore and I found south exit 27 summits and try to close store store more Scots distort managers that you know and it's been of a great. Situation for all of Lawson it's. You know I'm a lot of listeners lawman one golf superintendent were yeah I understand your body but. In the sign token you know the greens conversion you went into eagle which arm I personally. Had a little bit pain and that Panama. Secret of a life this past year has been dealing with new life horror from the old. Old sod company who specializes in golf course renovation type grasses and work. And Nam you know we're delighted that that some Yasser Carroll on a fresh arm were able to purchase setback. Early of 2006 things last year. And that's been one of my duties as is going around the golf superintendent salaam. You know when they have inquires what not about greens conversions were the Gaza do diamonds are widgets so. You know it's another ride that that we now grow and has fumbled it better access to secure our fresh forms. And it's what you and I were talking before a show up in the port I'm waiting to come into the studio was. Yet not everything every day pertains to you that she may do on the golf course the times to what a homeowner doesn't yard because. Your budget is a lot greater than the budget off of a homeowner maintaining New Yorkers are maintaining many actors of a golf course but. It's like have always said you know myself personally Carol are fresh forms as a whole we've always supported golf industry. Through our local associations professional organizations. Because we feel like even for awesome production. While the research comes out of a golf industry that's what. Kind of drops the researching definitely firm from Wii controls to insect controls to just grow and better grass seed and fertilizer studies. A lot of this comes out of the golf industry because let's face it business is business and what drives market where's the money. For these manufacturers a lot of times it's on the golf in the Dow finished her. Sure and that's cal like so we do domain you know even who golf industry itself in the Carolinas the is multi billion dollar industry. You know we're we're driven by the gag side you know there's a lot of products front that trickle down from us from the and agricultural side so. You know and the end user. He's. In the end user. Whether it's a homeowner golf course superintendent or or somebody else you know we don't give benefits from. From seeing people do you and use different products two. So it's to these two can play. Yeah and and your right that you mentioned that Exxon. A lot of our products over the years have com directly out of agriculture. In and then they have to bridge that gap pat do you go from a foreign field. Immediately into a residential landscape we never really see that that product being coached to do for a golf course like bowling. Through the Kia and whatnot and then eventually Edelman trickle it down into the residential side one. Of the most recent ones and I'm not sure if you are aware of this spectacle that is Bob pre emergent. They can use on the extensively most golf courses around use map. Still don't see it on the residential side. Armed budding coming years you may see them because that began as a pre emergent include and production on the backside. Four for several years is a libel product in the and it was all right we feel confident off the siphoned off to for the environment. We know that works so now will release or will give libel to the golf industry. Arm and then eventually somebody will pick it up from that manufacturer that I we can use this into the residential market as well the Mike lives easier. Arm micro onslaught by herself. Arm as a delight to have you here this morning and so I'm happy as if this is kind of one of my things is. His column you know one year customer to your friend but. You have to finally spoke she grew up in south Georgia. On from what I know works for them in Georgia. Graduate I Abraham Baldwin so. You know another rag gal like me and non. It's it's fun whose trust. Hopefully we'll get some calls to thy lord's side so if you wanna give us a call yard listening rob it is Saturday December 17. You can call us at 1803471. Of 63 and has always as Tex lines are open at 71307. So would love to hear from him. So chuck ED you were down in Georgia. And I guess she you brought up this way around number years ago were from Greenville country club on while this. So how do you like the upstate of South Carolina or south Tehran as a whole. Being a Georgian knighted yeah happy. I don't know if I can pick a better place to live. You know I've yet to small children. We love the school system lobe the area it's been a real blessing for us. Prior to me didn't appear to during bull I was out that our Reynolds plantation and later Tony so it was. Lou from the country to the big city. As far as my my wife and kids are concerned it was. A group just south of Atlanta so it wasn't as big a deal for me but I still. In Jolie. Would Greenville has offered the downtown scene is is phenomenal are great people always open you know who and. Winded and you're like me there's there's certain conventions. On association meetings things that you traveled other places you know Columbia. Charleston and coached you know we have Emanuel showed dammit but in the grand strand near Myrtle Beach convention center we just finished an up and excuse me November. And mound just seed the beauty of the state and that's what's interest in what I've always enjoyed about living your but I am a native mr. you know I'm a like Cuba not like you because I grew up in South Carolina but being raised inclined South Carolina small town. And ever picture myself move into the big city and now once you get here at tea. It's great in South Carolina has great cities and from you know green cities. And as horticulturist. They're kind of our best during the coast climate is phenomenal. We still have distinctive force seasons have not you know go out sound this morning as 32 degrees and split a little bit of moisture. Arm in about 35 and Columbia markets. But you know we have these distinct seasons. Yet we can still grow a lot of different things which is a lot of fun so shot guess what we have our first question. Or phone call hi this essentially now we're gonna get in some golf questions. Which would have never had only yard approach show so it's good to have here's a question about a a dollar bill press conversion from brand launched. Morning Brad Harry. Beat the good lord and I'm doing well thank you all were talking about golf course well more. It would you know bread is something that. I spin and I think chocolate tests that Aspin an awful lot of Monday lead business armed dealing in the golf course sector of the business. And Mumbai and a lot of people seek debtor or. Don't get that message when we're on the radio show on Saturday mornings. But I felt like united it's this might be a good topic something to talk about a little bit you know after all branded as the data one bomb not much on all the landscapes with. Debacle. Well bomb. Like our country on the boards were where were small town golf club and up front like monks now. We're starting to call will be you'll be afraid of the winner Angel ball treatment when no one's boring golf. But but more than that we had a lack of last year we hear it's a bit and then there's a lot of talk about converting. He goes over to right and other acts. And we we we are so. We're gonna build a cult of the conversion every effort in every week we're Oak Creek. Let the magnets will be a walk away with a with a different and so it is that our ordered that true. Yeah I you know I got to give you my thoughts and and I would really like for odd shot to give his thoughts as well cause brought them don't have another caller I think we got town talk about it choke off. Brad I'm not sure if you wherever I guess you know and listen to show our group and one and I cut my teeth born and raised there and likes our country club. As as a matter fact. You know mom and dad. I think that is taking war hiatus from his membership in recent years it just on play as much golf but he was salaam approximate number of on it at one common. And non you know I'm of course well back to those two mr. Bob dies on how long you've been involved earlier this are. It's a long amendment and none all those those and hall mayor and the club have also arm. Aaron you know. If you're right damning. I don't know but it as far as these magnets my personal assessment is greens quality or a greens. Quality and green surface you get what she put into. An athlete a lot of times on the Joseph lawless courses years ago I am I am a huge big grass fanatics what I grew up on playing usual posters state brings a light side. Arm but it sighing reality. We have to look at our weather trends and as greens mature. And become older we now have a lot of organics in Seoul profile we don't get the terrain engine that we talk about that you're on the show homeowners by having proper subsurface drainage. Then have been just truly begins to suffer on the specially through the bill. The hot wet Tom's of the summer. You know we see that a lot and people are going to Bermuda grass because. It is a little bit more forgiving is that fair to such it's a little more forgiving view in the strains of the heat and humidity. Arm but used by its wise. There's some things you have to do different culturally than you would do would be in order to mine tangling speed in the quality surface. Yeah amassing Q if you if you look at it and say you we wanna convert. For economic reasons we wanna say some money. Mom I don't necessarily know who if if you really DC that I think Hugh. May see the transition from. Your your cost being spent in one location on your budget. To another location I think. Weather's going grass Bermuda grass in order to get caught me putting surfaces you need to even. Do those cultural practices whether stop dressing and verdict coming on the Bermuda grasses or the the top dressing. Verification on bank grass and then the fungicide programs I think boost. You can see some fungicide. Programs that need to get put out on both in order to provide young great playing conditions for reform Barroso. This kind of really a catch 22 if you sit there and say. You know. When it went as our. Play you'd rather play April through the end of September ma'am almost any buys banging down the doors and any golf course right now with the weather outside but. So Lou yeah it lends itself to I think. Bermuda grass gives you the best. Playing conditions in your peak times of the year I think too but it's it's definitely a close decision and I think you know. You. Two conversations with the superintendent make sure he feels console that as well me. It's it's uninteresting to on the golf business as far as conversions against from the Alter course to them you know from the deaths. Villa and you know I think back you know grown up there and like sudden employment grass and when you would go apply you want those courses that have. Bermuda grass back at the end of varieties more the second that we have to die. And you really kind of cringe mantown wanted to play amendment that is the the Bermuda grass today that's vitals special at the Tennessee. I mean it rolls is true. As as big ingress and and some times of the year in actual roles a lot faster processor aggressor Baltic continues rollout. So but I think I agree what sharks have bread is. You know it comes back to the powers that be whether it's proper cloth. Public course. Com I fill a lot of reason that people begin to convert or or have converted to is just what chuck said is to make the course more playable. At the peak time a year. So you don't have that worry of loss of greens import pulling names you have about applying surface at peak times of the year. Still don't expect. Yeah oh yeah that's that's good bit here and don't we may need to give you guys have radio all the discussion of that or it would say their to do that. There you go so. We'll bring every pressure it's called this morning and then non you guys it warms up man who knows you might see me out their lights out and do get them away and played that course and yours. Well the city there aren't very much as that's what I hear so I have a good weekend Brandon mayor christmastime you the Democrats. You know much. Child what don't jump straight to the next phone on the before I do that I need to remind everyone it is one week to Christmas. So once the show was over he can run into that last minute shopping but please do not Ron and I am because we have chuck Connelly. With a club at Brookstone is a guest today solo and chuck looks like we have another bent grass question they're out of a hungrier from mr. Bob good morning Bob Perry. I'm fine how are you guys to write. And not much of a golfer and I may mess that may have missed a little bit of your conversation when I was dialing in with regard to bent crescent and premier regressed. But my question was. And it's tied I'm gonna slide into it pertains to my long but. Most of the golf greens are bent grass and is that an invasive breast such as Bermuda aggressors. Not really because of our environment is just not a 100% conducive for year round growth of of that particular variety. A bomb and the other thing is just keep him on the golf course greens were maintain the grass such low mowing heights I don't we used to talk about fractions of an inch. Now we do little about decimal. Let's go DC do we does small scale because we'll get so low fare armed that you know you know where my intent and bent grass you know. Washed Rancho took the club's point 120. Of an inch. You know 120 of an inch a vote not 120 but one. Wasn't. Bombing a 120 fifths of the death of an inch or lower is not there for do anything that MM when we're maintaining grass at that level that's part of the problem is. We're putting undue stress is just like your home won't you know wash around Bob. It's it's risky so if if you when Matt Kutcher fast Q&A inch inch and half mowing heights in the heat of the summer. It's not gonna last there. On and and that's normally what's going on with the with the greens quality grass you're having to maintain the social mowing heights no grass prefer admiral. What I mean would you agree with a child itself with. I would definitely agree is you know there will we do on golf courses. No matter if you're high scale. Pines golf course for. And gesture average public golf course nothing can. What superintendents are asked to do and tested the is his name is that grass Maine that's exactly what we're trying to do remains an address as healthy as we can. And pollution into whatever limits that we. You push it to the brink of death by who must attack. I was so. So I don't see it as as invasive species I would tell young golf courses that have been press over years of quarter filtration temple on the blogs off. On the if you go out in the woods you might seem more road patch bing grassy and they're the 68 inches tall with spin and win. I'm but it it column houses that never gets larger and about 400 square feet nexus plummets noninvasive taught product. Book that did did I missed something or didn't who was there previous caller talking about the possibility of turning their greens in two Bermuda justices and yeah what. Now now Bermuda grass as far as I'm concerned and you can correct me if I'm wrong is a very invasive. Progress and I can tell you because I've got tests. That's right back and Eddie you're right especially the them the more native born naturalized Arizona common Bermuda grass. The Bermuda grass is that we're using even in residential turf was hammered for not seeing came out a UGI back in what 40s50s. There from I think 1955. Somewhere around there's when it was released. These dresses don't seem to they're still and vice of this for us going into Europe middle home. Or you shrub bad but this forced taking over the world is just you really don't see it on now what he's trying to grow something different like for asking momentum. You might not always see at that wide but they are. A closely related. Two and I to forge grass native to the of the common you know on its sites. Won't. Okay it if you have bent grass on your greens to. What is the grid steps adjacent to that around the green and I'm Ben out into the fairways. What what type progresses it's different and it's not that Chris craft. Now typically here in the state for the most part. It's for nineteen Bermuda grass and for most people there's a handful of guys that do you have some is always a grass fairways. And those types of things bird. By and large most golf courses in the upstate area have Bermuda grass fairway. Fairways and collars. But that wanted to safely back Chris on the green. It does to the grille has allotment and hedge your grains and retained by assists in the Canaan valley greens over time. Tech we'll ask the question I have because I picked it took a test you that I got into. I keep every couple years you have to kill other sections just keeps coming back and coming back in. Well listen we've pressure it's called problem don't have Fletcher goes the bottom of our bright have a great weekend animated Christmas Manning goes by fast and it's shot you look at the lists. Hey I know we have to caller we have Don and Rick from Ramon Columbia I hope you hold in that bomb on our bright. You're listening to the yard pro show brought you back here on refresh forms stating we get Matt folks would know more from our guest chuck Connelly. Would the club at Brookstone give us call 1803471. 063 thanks. Welcome back came good morning from. But you are pro show it is Saturday December of the 71. Week into Christmas Day so. Hope everyone is having a great weekend certainly a lot of folks are calling him listening to the show I'm mills grant wanna ghosting we also have. Should calmly and with a club at Brookstone out of ambition so appreciate you being here this morning chuck. Chuck. We got a good start met Iran's we've had gone on hold for quite awhile but real quickly I want to tell you we had a text to text in assists. How will play on any grass and anyway so there's some diehard golfers out there we know that in this market. But let's go to Don downing Colombian. Panel discussion with him the morning Donna how are you. Don't worry you don't I am outstanding man a little chilly dammit why this morning nine year. I thought I didn't actually at an airfield we freezer in small. You know I have been looking for admitted that the payment is rather drum up stuff so a lot on what I remember I never got out of tight medic contradicting. That and I am great autumn of net. I is not a whole lot welcome the winner. But I wouldn't swap are. Updated to upper one day it is and well and. I'm the same why and I always contribute this sort of told everyone in my life that our law of dreary week winery. Precipitation dies it's just me and I contribute to having Eddie summer Burke died as a matter of fact. This today. Cecil. I had even been met him today as my burstein Ayman whopping. While debit card and I'm 29 and holding. Calm considering have you on the news hello Dave Miller a long term loans. I'm Dixie important that I handle it can help the Lebanese army and so what you way happy Ramadan. I have a question. Normally. And landscaping and end. Church do it as a considerable. Metal wrapped time. And I'm not want these guys you assembled transmit site he had been a bit so what I actually do is we needed down. Import or go to times scroll over top of the political through it sparring. But cup this year are at an engagement and the Bermuda grass and all kind of stopped growing up Internet. And I like Gordon didn't cut it down now we go to country called off of it packets one to make sure. I don't want to go to damage due to world peace and certain question and got it or not it may be exploring bit to help me out with people that step from common Balco. Yeah you know the first question is but cutting it back out confounding go ahead and from back I have some around the front of the house and typically haven't done yet. My Wi-Fi does not listen initial investment into the die before about a comes over to more for. My son's birth and so if we get a double whammy we are. Our first grand meadow. Get notice as far as you know we are no hall while a lot of homeowners probably have some interest in this to. I'm in the problem with using a line tremor I string Trimmer of tomorrow is you don't get to clean cut in his gonna rip the edges. It's gonna make an unsightly but your dressing net not putting alike cloak coat upon strong tops of how you mow it back to me I can careless I think it's certainly acceptable. I think now certainly appropriate time it's not going on Boston new growth and I would rather you do it ma'am because when I found most people wait too late. In the winner of where it's beginning as to shoot that new growth up and then their cut. Don't camera shots yeah I yeah I know many on our don't laughter now as far as weeks. You know things like few slight to our libeled spray over top for the Bermuda but the Bermuda has to be actively growing but that can be a good product for you to use an expiring that oil. At all hurdle rocket pre emergent blossoming. Chalk coming Panama 21 I com. You know dull pretty improbable Bayer paid. Any pre emergent. Don't establish Ferrara Pete should be five and needs it and and I can't mention I dimensions should be found and it should really help you with things like the Daniel on. My most guys can begin in their intent and that that pretty large barrier yes. All know that the general rapidly bed generally eat certain forgive it's easier this at all times crazies out. I would certainly pre emergent sometime in non problem an annual market probably like February I would go when I'm pretty emerge as a rapid minutes and I think. You know us not gonna control all your week contest but certainly gonna have picture you're gonna scene and. Well on the ball to pre emergent I usually use holidays about Powell struck at reemerge. L spelled out. There you go especially in that figuring and a small bit warmer to sort temperatures you know that's all based console temperatures arms so well. We're gonna get seventy the march but I guess what I heard Amanda and the idea. That. It'll break air conditioning. And I struck I don't know what that's what's in the slalom while dom we appreciate you choose to send them they are on WD OC I guess I'll see I I am. Listen because everywhere he cannot really appreciate her. While we appreciate them we appreciate you adding so much value in not only to be content and show but also wind industry so I appreciate it thank you have a great Christmas. Obama it's Mela. A bomb yeah a great question. You know and and those things believe it or not uses suit pretend that you still have to address issues like that right oh you definitely am union as not just about maintaining and agreeing. It's yeah it's landscape leaders around the golf courses clubhouse is. Golf courses you know beds around in golf during using tees and all this focus also. As this I guess who won one lucky thing we have is we have quite a few guys. On our staff is Dave doesn't following Gary children. They yelled let's go about it Irma now back in the midlands will keep it there we have Rick good morning Howard you. They are you could hamper or should she hold on him for awhile and not take what menu Gaza come and own problems strongman in the middle is this morning we really appreciate them. Always thought dot com. It or oils are just look into the it do you maker got Cora dealmaker grasp that they keep cheaper homage and shooting three putt on the during. I you know we're working very diligent I don't edit my life turf on because men you talk about a marketing dream I'm main. I can you know what if I could come when that. Rick I can retire when that guy on the mat and nothing in umbrellas to go opinion to a lot of sexy Massa went live twelve months Saturday night. And we couldn't give a blow to our local golf professionals and to get to see you then they can probably help you exactly plus there could help. I don't know man bad. Go back out who's WAL it is dull that. Look at that we blocked collar and I was so little to blow up multiple wives got herb guard. And what a way that needed the during the winter to keep going and you've gotten basically bagel and yeah. Rosemary in which. You have certain things like that buys or gonna check out with the with a hard for leasing arm you may still be cynical growth in the middle and so on but once you get a couple more freezes its own. It's a manual on every planet next chairman you can try Truman and backseat can get some over wondering could you wore a little bit milder climate. But at some point ethical man winner ditch it. The Rosemary. You know duel battle like pruning and Nam cannot clean it up a bit. The biggest thing I needed to what advocates is is certainly getting in the air. And doing some time for mulch material especially ran things like the Rosemary it's on the things we know more tender than a perennials. On that helped tuchman from all ma'am winner a little bit and I prefer in that situation on sort app for pastoral. Yeah I want the and there at the golf course we actually ever escrow Earl street that. This is opened up and and she has actually three or four. I guess you'd say we are herb boxes out there in front she tries to cover them with some fabric but that's also underneath. Owning and its publisher notes pretty regularly but there are some Warner partied. You know her earns it then mostly leave them. Not real familiar with what what motion asks do you that I have to deal the shout out to mills he's he's one heck of Likud and try understands. Side you better not to. So while you Tokyo to talk about the big change here just quickly your real quick I talk about pickup courses. Is. I mean maintenance of a golf course you know it didn't agree to the ground solid yet it is got a big. Expense. The news own business well I've always wondered at a man I look at two. You know news hit you the labor gap. And and you don't want shut that's a great question because a golf course but no matter if it's probably if it's public it's a business and I have a budget at some former purpose percentage standpoint. You know. There's an awful lot of money out imagine going into the nineties is out of it. I mean you know you're in the private sector so that's a little bit different than when you're at a public golf course named. I think through the money that you're you're your your inputs into your golf course. Really depend on you whether it's a public golf course is the revenue Richard if you didn't allow our own needs it's a little bit easier but it. You can easily spend union. On the down low in golf courses are and and or less maintenance and pilot you know quarter to the the main dollars on the golf course and then yeah you can get it knows yet and then you can get two. Private golf courses. With you know full memberships can spend. Oh boards of vermilion so there's that he can rob damage and that's where. Yeah a lot of superintendents say you always feel like they're always in competition with the guy next door and you know for the value for our members and and their guests they don't necessarily understand. The financial. Reached now. Constraints that are put on the superintendent from Don not so and so can't do that because he doesn't have them the resources. We'll strive our artillery a little golf course here current or former got to say. And one a new owners. And he was talking about. Pretty over a million dollars just to green pretty big Greece can be mean the arrangements are urine. Did I upgrade than. It it can get quite costly and and it's not just the golf industry it's you know think about professional football fields from your minor league problem Major League Baseball. They college athletics that it it'll make your head spin of what the magnets calls it is only as grasses because it's like we said earlier in the show. Accused you're working every day storage up but we do and everything we can do that to bring that grass within the brink of death buckles of what. The customer demands is forced playing surface on a cost money to mankind. I mean is this system a misfortune but. But nonetheless it's a great industry. Yeah assembly that we've enjoyed talking about it this morning and S future. Thank you I am not going down. Yeah amen and Burton by Humana Merry Christmas to you. That aren't mama arm and you know what you. We did lose a caller on what you pay but if you have time to combat we have wanna hold will go to them we have looks like Bryant saying great court good morning Brian hammer you. I'm good I know that I'm right yeah. Update to those who bought kind of want it take a look in the early summer of embryo or in my old east. Yeah our guys you know coming up there at candidate actually. Good baseball playing they come up there very short. They'd look like little for. What all vote like travel I'll go virtually. And certainly kind of regularly but you know they're very short term problem maybe an inch. Internet at all any just tons of them are your. In the end what would you saw strong. Allison in Iraq in my brain and as so what's really a summer we need is what it is. Time. I would imagine you know you describe the plot all that has to be deceiving pork or. That the plant flowering or going to see it is around then that's what you're seeing the result off. But without our you know being able to visual C I can't think of anybody on the oft -- top of my idea of him but one thing I would suggest you trot. If it's Emanuel a pre emergent and you know in that market urine and right court sometime late February early march. I pre emergent herbicides in that long is gonna prevent any we'd see. From becoming an issue things to come from seed now perennial weeds its not gonna help you much they care. On the could help them from spreading to her but it's not gonna output per venom but if if our units to phases still grew on a New York right now sort of normal life for the wanna. Well big go to white pretty could go quite a bit soccer there. Are tracked what I would suggest it if you would like to do it Brian some music comes off this coming spring and seventeenth. Take a few pictures and go to our website Carroll on a fresh farms dot com. Arm emailed it to restore might be an Anderson a darkened tight few pictures you can email to him. And I can give you a better idea what ideas obviously because that's the key to controlling weeds that. The key is is as having positive identification proper identification on the Atlantic as far as didn't any weed problem the control intact Walt. AM there it's a common thing that statement you are everywhere I think it yarder where regular rambler with. On. You know it's aggravate because when you try it is just there's everywhere and they're. In Belle isle lack of people that won't admit that all the beautiful I love to have what is beautiful home. That they get as it is that there probably. Have you know the the moaning all the way to they would say also do. They're they're gonna let you gotta pay fair and a half the gamma. There's got to listen to about forty operate it takes to maintain guess national. No one alpha won't ever know little weak it's a good hemming. And yeah we can talk about. A lot. I know I can promise you this more money than Carter has liver pills. Yeah how about that. Hi when you have a great weekend and a Merry Christmas to you. Guys you. Obama. The show great question you know what's funny chuck isn't in spring a year that's kind of bus and you grew up in Georgia I grew up in. In south and a lot of regards with probably growth about sang distance from from off. That little golf course and the here and in Augusta Georgia and I tell you man it's it's amazing. The impact something like that over the years has had. On each and every wanna bus when it comes to. Kind of our faults of what we think golf should it turn you know it's it's pretty spectacular applause. Yeah I can remember quite a few days and high school me and a couple buddies or drive out. That was when you go for 510. And fifteen dollars on Mondays through Wednesdays and it was still easy access and it's a special places specialist for me here just to walk on there every year I still have the opportunity get down and a walk on the grounds and just another history that has come through there and and would that. Facility is meant to golf in general but I mean. Also been fortunate enough to have to a walk on a lot of other golf courses they're really. A pretty special places as far as history golf concern partners in right arm backyard and so. It's cool space who in Canada when you're in the industry what you appreciate about and that's one of the things I like about the golf industry is. It's not only what I do for my professional career but it's also a hobby that I love of the game and golf and I love the history of couldn't. Know a lot of people can't say that about their professions accountants they're doctors or lawyers are not a whole lot of history that goes with is that. Most people can appreciate. Let an eight and you're right amended in the history if if you're a kind of a golf guy. Whether you know much about mine thing of course not you see the beauty in basically every golf course and now we have vote. You know we call it in and aren't true color old school golf in those courses are built back in the twenties and the thirties in the and the forties and the fifties. And nom you know it's it's kind of like you know when a caller Mike said member panel at a likes our country club at a sold school off yeah small push up greens. Just a full on George deployed there are a lot of them around in now. You know Brooks Tom but the club at Brookstone is a little bit Newark. But there's there's still some architectural elements out there and make you feel like Maine it's old school golf fair and non special things you grow up where there's it's kind of like. This show what sports is. We go through as we mature win adolescents we were in breach where young bucks and and young adults. We'll probably don't hear as much about a yard boot as we begin the mature and age. Arm we count our. Return back to one remembers a kid in a member Bloomberg of the year from the it was you know would would grandparent should be a grown up in Kleiman. My grandparents grainy and the is a call on them and Joseph when South Carolina huge garden every year. In the and you go back and you think man how much do this for markets I want my kids to have assortment and know what it's like to pick the tomato to cut a fresh collar. I get my college planning this year I'm going to connection. You know to go dig potatoes. You know things like that that he is just how close kind of humbling in foreign and warm and Fuzzy feeling. And tell me toward the earth I think it's humbling experience for keys you always through mother nature and that escalation and no matter. How smaller how much education that we have and how much. Technology we have at our fingertips. Mother nature is speaker it's is how I must suffer some bodies from Clemson is every year you know. When we turn it soul open mount performance for Clinton a new crop first human fall I'd love to go up rob tried before night. Because there's nothing in this most modern and fresh couldn't hurt that's something about fresh cut there and you're doing some type agricultural process. I mean you just get you back to your roots in earnest and non just a core essence coming after all this for a lot of this country. Was founded own wounds growing products. In an exporting exactly arms you know whether it was to another state or or back crossed the pond to England. Arm but it is just an interesting process sought. You know this has been a sheer delight this morning we do have a text on probably should again to what are but we have been busy with phone calls. And non chuck let's see if we can we'll try to stumble through this was great question actually. You mentioned the new products but Goldwire golf course is going to it and how does it perform better and isn't a viable for the homeowner if they would choose to purchase it. One it's not available for homeowners not liable for residential turf but you know what was the big drop moment prop. You know for me. We we always had a an issue with kind of our spring pre emerged kind of breaking down a little bit. Into the summertime and and you had those late season. As late season weeds and once spectacles been able to give us the opportunities that I am able to apply it to an and that middle of the summer. And pick up the news. Late germinating Wii's for in some ways but then also used new ability to cushion all through. The fall and even into the winner so it's almost a double bang for us on the golf industry SATA meaning just as she pushed out of following a winner because you're trying to prevent the annual bluegrass is Internet in one way and we'll do it Kenya and jeans begin July and then we'll come back and said Carol usually do. I think it's 24 ounce labs. Got you so alarm chart we're kind of rhyme wound and winding down. The show but a Trojan flyby in Maleeva digit. This is this is incredible. But what I would tell you resolve this the spectacle question panel leads him. To all a couple of hot topics wanna talk about. You know one thing is when we control. I have seen you know I finally got out got home in time yesterday wanted to go home mode and 'cause trying moved in this weekend with. Birthday activities this weekend Christmas next weekend did not when I have that opportunity. Chick week India and coupled that medal. Prolific in my backyard and you know what do we do on us when we controls Ifill what the Seoul attempts a kind of chat. Unfortunately we're dropping in with the you know vote the upper thirties for sole Temps here's our study yes. Even the winds are beginning the slowdown in growth I don't know if you get a lot of post merger and activity on weeds bomb and I know what's going to be seventy something degrees in the middle is more going to be sixty if you on the upstate. Unity. That would count on my offense is do our recommends money spry I don't not I don't know how much affect you gonna India. Now and it winner riskier. There are coming to work on the same situation the golf courses have 23 weeks ago there was a group of superintendents were own talent Sheen text back and forth say have you seen anything improper and nightly bit I think the drop fault. Has really kind of kept some of are we just you know weeds of population down as far as terminations concerned. Without a doubt armed disease wise not a lot morneau especially when season longs would cold worst sort of several weeks ago I did see a little bit patched a lack of but mannered sort Temps cool down its recent rains. On bets and help discount cartel that for a fight for the winner. But we still think about a school season longs we need to get those. Fertilized if you want to want more ta hey is it because that's sort of up. Come January relive continues to drop you're not amused allowed you lost fertilizer you have a yellow wall and cool season cool season doesn't mean he keeps growing even in January and has always instilled slow is that I did that and I'll remind the listeners of this chuck EU. Kind annual grief all summer Samantha I have to him one more time and hear the drought report on a Saturday he is a slow subtle reminder that it gave you learn draft eight even though. We have had rhino across the study. We are still in drought within this tight so let's keep prying him for a little bit more rain. You know certainly know what's repeated a slow but it south for a nonetheless when they get. Folks it is Saturday December 17 I'm one wish you and your family. I Merry Christmas because I know we're gonna try our best to have wants some look at Ford and at 11 o'clock candlelight service Christmas at the right time. And who knows I might surprise you in the year gimmicks what's not real sure. 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