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Three WORD. A lot of ways to describe what it's about. That's happened in less than two hours from now one I guess would be. And it's like go ringling Brothers and Barnum and Bailey came to town only had one rain and didn't have any elephants. And she could be a fascinating debate tonight that is for sure well command it is a 1063 WOR day trader made special. Tara from my terrace summation of some nature a morning show is here and now she is going to introduce. Our wisdom guests to unit seemingly having a number of individuals who are going to be joining us pundits to comment. On what we anticipate happening in tonight's debate from Des Moines, Iowa you know of course. On the back story they prelude to what is going on in Iowa tonight. The the conference champs Leo guerrilla warfare between Megyn Kelly and Fox News. On one hand. And the Donald. On the other. Donald Trump and this goes all the way back in the very first debate. Gearing winched down there on fox. Megan Kelly SE we'd moderator of the made ask a question about women. And Donald trumps history with them and frankly he found offensive. He has been apparently unable to get past that and so he asked. Dot they they fox news network. To remove Megyn Kelly as one of the moderator for tonight's debate well. Understandably. Fox News was then placed in the position of having one of the candidates dictate to them who the moderator would be. And so on that point they say no we're not gonna do that. And following that decision from fox Donald Trump then announced he would not be participating in tonight's debate. And he upped the ante by announcing he would have his old event tonight. Elsewhere from the debate location in Iowa. That would be a town hall type meeting. And the financial. Returns from that would go to veterans groups and two well wounded warriors then CNN. Seeing an opening. Against their arch enemy Fox News announced that they would be carrying the Donald C event. In the same time period and head against the debate so that sets the scene here's Tara to introduce our guests to you tonight. Q Bobby Mack hit joining us today we're proud to announces I'm our panel which will expand and contract throughout the evening as others join us for about. I'm Dave what what what hurt he's the chairman professor of political science from a Clemson thank you so much for joining us as he anchorman Darren. Course you have a long history in South Carolina politics and to do in terms now. He is chairman of the Anderson county Republican Party and has said certainly. Seen his in his said time in the trenches here in South Carolina has a lot about what's going on on the ground that's we're trying to get an idea of does he mean we're talking but the debate but we're talking about it from a South Carolina perspective and you know how will what goes on tonight at the debate. Or does not go on with Donald Trump not being here. That's a fact what goes on to stay what are people gonna think about it what the next round polls don't look like hey I wanna did not and start to Sasha moment. Public policy polling know beyond ninety just put a new poll today. Before you know with with Iowa it's Ted trumpeted 31%. And Ted Kris is a country. And a followed up by Marco Rubio at 14%. So so that's kind of what we're working with going into this debate tonight well we'll start with you professor. I'm well aware when he came up pollen I'm about to run a removable back for a another one. This okay I'm sorry I'm all figured out amendment. And we're just saying a lot of undecided voters so far. I'm not watching these polls because I just am on the line so many times with voters in Fannie and they really don't know what they're going to do so I. I am and I believe them I believe that man there were a good rank order I don't quite believe the percentages. So these South Carolina or should talk yeah honestly running right now than it is that I would that's Iowa yes I would be surprised at that right now okay. What do you think it is here. Tampa Bay laid doesn't know they laid on the rise and has been leading but. Historically in South Carolina closer we get to election the less the leader does yeah less swelling does I think he's probably falling back and if you have to remember. Iowa New Hampshire implied in general elections and November. South Carolina is my enemy imply where the first base Republican state your wins here. Really has a leg up for winning the nomination so I think we're very important in the national Q what's gonna happen what percent your Republican voters are telling you that there are undecided. We're having about thirty or 40% this was a poll we did back around Thanksgiving. But. Of those who had decided. 70% of them said they might change their mind before Election Day after let's just means it's very very soft and we expected that early we get closer to it it'll it'll harder. Yeah and Connie Mack thank you NIC they'll on the text line which I think is the best Pahlavi of stem understand. Alma text cumin and you you see armed people I love trumpet I might vote for Chris. I like cringe but I really could vote for trump I mean that's my tax plan every morning yeah this is people sort of waffled back and forth so I mean you know somebody did something polls. Or failed in some major way I I think that the votes could really quickly. Well and I I think it's too today border point. In how the first vote has yet to be cast and won't be until Monday and and bear in mind. And I am looking at Iowa. To the past winners and Iowa tonight. Are at this moment. At the kiddie table primarily undercard debate and following that. It was Donald Trump and his event so you know we talk about Iowa's importance meant and how crucial can even beat. This is turning into regular soap opera is an it. I read the news Megyn Kelly okay. And now with. Men may view of how I feel when you professor. I'm did hit an Art Bell and I can tell you what do you think you know South Carolina pretty good and you're pretty deep down there and grassroots. How is Trump's decision to not appeared science news and seeing if he has a gonna play here. I don't think you actually heard him. As you know we have we have such a we have a what I saw would say is I'm pretty ultra conservative base here in the upstate especially in Anderson county. And I believe that our basic chores and Anderson county as far as majority we go would be between trump or cruise. And I think we've we've seen a lot of vacillation back and forth between those two over the last several weeks actually have had some. Offense some friends who have started out with crews from day one and Mal they're going over the trump and I had a couple of people that I know do they inverse. But basically. Whoever the most conservative person is that they consider I think Bruce who the winner will be bad manners accounting. We remember that Newt Gingrich course he broke the record you know doctor. Daughter Woodard last time again winning the nomination but that didn't end up being the nominee party. But but of course Anderson Kevin with renewed in a pretty hard way last time. Yes the whole of stripping people can kind of processing as Hoover threw it on the air the first early. Reactions that we get we as so many tags that are from people basically saying pretty incredible woman. I don't child's step in the ring and womanizing and handle Hillary. And then as it as is sort of people had a chance to talk about it to me that tang clan is is sensible there's still some bad. But now I'm seeing an and Bob jumping Antonio you're seeing I'm seeing on some. Actually be a pretty Smart move he's. You can't judge he's you know he's set in terms in name I liked that a little but some people kind of processing missing trying to figure out what to make of it. And and does so and we certainly you'll have time to figure out what do you make of it. Text us tonight on the tech's linemen snow what do you think texture race hey Bob. We'll be watching tramps and I forget to breeze to put downs of. And on I've had people ask me you know why don't we jump fox tonight in and carry trump well because we are not a CNN affiliate. I'll shoot a more critical for that everything and I look well if you figure out why lire of fox affiliate rather than CNN. I kinda interesting letter and today Jim actually am not an email. About. Triumphant and Y a out why he is where he is today and I'm not sure that when you when we comeback kid. Sorry but the birds could twisting your phone calls you word text to detect my own that is what you can join our panel soon. Larry coming back coming up in net just few minutes. Coverage on the GOP debate starts at 9 PM on 1063 WOR GD upstate C election headquarters. Extreme don't Ortiz yeah. Pretty didn't. Good evening again practicing Evernote. Think the morning however stay on the air hears strange to be here when it starts on the other side of that for joining us is of course my co host tonight. Funny maximum for our legends tomorrow minerals they thought that's OK Cheri I don't oh lead to listener of G dinner. With the professor Dave where he's determined professor of political science from my clubs and we had sand. Carville who's a photographer Andy chairman of the Anderson county Republican Party welcome gentlemen as we roll on through and I will have others joining us as well. On the usage something at the break I'll let you know for a whole week is yours and you CNN menu and I never again and wish that they way he did. Thank you think tell me who you think can't win. Well I don't think either when the front runners and now what can I think crews had to think trump can win. Well and and Ronald Reagan's is simple lancer Ronald Reagan was conservative he ran for president three times the third time he got elected. First two times he didn't elect him because he used and if I would go water in the right. And Reagan was a nice charitable happy gas. No I was able to get along with people and he had to get a lot happier he went along. But I think he he used to say conservatives are angry white men and the problem is I can't win. He would he was angry it is why they was happy and he was able to to scope that. I think the problem both of them have bombing trump has lots of problems but I think. Cruz has one he only makes people angry when he gets in room. And you just can't do is then asked if you're conservative and and expect to win the presidency and down the line of which yesterday is when the person's. That's a lot different than when the nomination. Drew and and I don't think either one I'm human impression. But I mean but presuming Hillary is the nominee. I mean this is a woman who literally internals must be so black show that mean the what do they went to say hello Linda all the manner that is not a nice little play on. Before Saturday night before a business. Then vote Clinton again. What you know until it was the ninety's but it takes an illegal generations come of age and you know what these women are here they like or better you're hearing about the ice is like predation of this Bill Clinton man and in net debt do you think they're gonna. Like I'm glad they no doubt remember guys this is my girl my own dignity. Nice to maker of the clintons are the most dangerous political machine in this country because. Killing lately doesn't mean you're gonna win and they don't win elections they won election than win I'm all done well but they didn't do showed twice against our least once the first time around against. Barack Obama to immediately when he plays occur on time and think about this for minute rate. He was five years as state legislature don't. When he just absolutely pounds it turned to the sand I think she's week. Site and ignore my negatives Obama had such an outstanding record in the Illinois legislature wary voted present. Every time I was given an opportunity so they wouldn't be on the record as having good numbers telling them my damage as political jets now you're out of this this beaten. I would put a decade after 9/11 white guy. Ayman sustained and we what's it made him he won twice the Holland matters you know not to win TV POS gamers in Alabama and clay is not color remember. Had to bring that out yeah. They're Dan what do you think. All you know guys I just think we're in a different we're different cycles this time. I think you would remember trump did not take whole last time. He just he just didn't and any any fell back but I think we've had enough to happen over the course of the last so if you Obama years. That people are in a rebellious state and I think I think some of the numbers that prove that some of the Democrats enough and big former. Democratic voters who are coming over to perhaps Trump's side I think that's a great indicator that things may be different this time. Ben and and put all due respect not under underwater that it might not turn out to be what historically has happened before. Well this election cycle has gotten so goofy. But now Bloomberg the former mayor of New York announcing that. Is gonna is thinking about coming into the fray as an independent candidate this is what the American voters have been screaming for someone who. To the table. The issue of twenty ounce sodas and whether they should be consumed by America's citizens are now let's isn't just a guy we need to know threaten yeah. I'm gonna say that you're gunmen doesn't get yourself that. No more Indians. And then as Bob how he says he's running he's not in the race is turning against trump. Is thinking as did the Hillary is not there. Now you know early she's gone now and and he's gonna run do you describe the feeling is things elemental question. How many primaries. Does Bernie win. He probably. I'm just saying he'd be stage is an upset in Iowa and wins there. Users and he's gonna win New Hampshire don't win New Hampshire so he comes in here too and no. Hillary. Is is comes stumbling in the South Carolina that the and and I think. I'm I'm gonna have hazard a guess and Hillary wins a narrow victory in South Carolina and Akeelah caper gone I think you're right she's sixty UN 3% and the told. Just came out and say she is I mean general muscle there. She should have some spillover from. 2008. So I think she probably what she probably does help learning birdies hand as I hired some real. I'll show up. Consultants down in Columbia and understand they're known a lot of work out their guy realizes signed the voting day is for the democratic primary. So much smaller ya yeah like your brother manipulated a lot easier especially view on don't count the ones are crossover vote. Feel rich and that is nor their own. Thing. Symbolize series through and B yeah I mean this is Ed student David. I'm probably didn't trouble rubio or enemy does the best candidate in the field of my opinion. Isn't in the face bonds bought by the party in the main thing about him he has an intangible quality that seems to be worked and foreign notice. Professor wood or did not say he's the most conservative candidate I never saw a phenom Illinois when they alleged Buffett is well I'm yeah I'm a little sick and tired of I'm always sing a couple and around we're talking a little bit. About the up the environment and which we find ourselves. These days shouldn't. As we head towards November race Tony sixteen I got this email today. When says and I quote. If you understand nothing else about Donald Trump understand that she has a particular mindset we see all the time and business. Easy quote this rupture. They disrupt her as someone whose entire brand is to break the mold to turn away we do things on intent Amazon did it when retail. Bloomberg fitted with taxis they're being made and it was travel slack is doing to an email Spotify with music appeared in peer lending is changing banking and trump. Is disrupting politics this raptors. Don't fix what's broken. Because they do not innovate from inside the system they break the mold. Change your thinking about the mold and then hand us the new rules for how things work. I think that's good for business something is good for politics. And why. But because I think is completely different game respect and in general election summer talk amid general elections their loved him in the primary elections right and I think to go out there and win. On the line marginal voters. And you're disrupt her. Just doesn't work. And what happens is the known quantity is is Hillary. A chance to do is sit there and smile. And she'll win by the false. That's my that's my opinion. I think part of part of what. The GOP is up against this time around two on and Damien talk more about this. On the other side of the break your true or do we have a break here coming up terror and we do we got a minute left I won't talk a little bit about the in the uphill fight. In the electoral college and they usually vanish Democrats have area now Dave Dave knows a great deal about going to be entering hear what you have set. Yeah also adjusting to focus when you go back and look at the numbers mean Romney did better than McCain still go whoops. While people forget you know if Al Gore had carried his so called home state of Tennessee and at what it would have been calling him president gore and now we know Albie you know tilting at. Green when melts everywhere. Income point less racist talk about on either side on the plus you were thoughts. On and collection 2016. From new South Carolina perspective what's going on here on the ground 71307. Is the tech fining them call us. 180347106. Straight. I now return to what I was 63 WORD's. And special. Would terror and our election and. They gave no. Later in German protester put aside the content and Jan marvell chairman Anderson canny Republican party for joining us this evening we'll have others. Dumping by as you well bombing thank you knew I want daily news events are planned. Yeah sure let's do that and now you can join us with your input what you think about what we're gonna hear tonight and and what's going to be happening down the road in this campaign. The sheriff said angles and vanished on going number it's still free from anywhere 80347106. Story let's bring in now mark. Hello mark and know welcome to our pre debate special what say you. Well I deserve what they got there about our the end of the it is clear and that differed from Obama they shared. That's what would be my but keep your biggest made your run a business you know all of a bit mr. copper they've got our group. What is that cup by it's been what we've aboard an eagle leader up by the United States. Well look if you don't turn a profit you don't stay in business very long billion. That there are pressure there's a bank get it all up I felt this afternoon. That I'm always hit it hitters are voting Americans. We have been that it occurred the same people over a ridge bait and her brow well that and that. So one act changed the blue regarding our the only way to change it Zhang. I think that is that's an opinion expressed by a lot of people in the trump camp thank you mark I appreciate that. David hit it in the polling that you've done. Is if you had to do use one adjective to describe the emotion. Event that you're getting from from the people then then you talk with oh which one would it be I think I can. Hazard a guess but I'm I'm your love hate yes anger that's the one that comes in the door mode than any other. That's right yes they are fed up with the way things are going that's why I think the appeal is to these. Hard candidates this thing to be leading is there so outspoken and controversial I think that's what they're looking forward and center. Thing because the last time around when we did this. Four years ago with out after amendment. And a relic that's. Newt Gingrich back Kaymer riding in on a white charger. He got. A difficult question from a CNN moderator did so last game down. Now that we didn't get into the home cooked sexist and business there slapped a CNN moderator down. And and went on to a huge victory. In those in the South Carolina GOP primary he was he was a guy that was riding a wave. Cannot even speak his mind yes you are and that's what they liked and and and we only one he only won two states. Yeah doesn't Georgia cal might wonder what happened what happened after that and and I I suspect. That plays into your thinking about Donald Trump this time around in my wrong nudge that's right I mean. Well I think what have his Mitt Romney won in Florida. And that turned things around I think for the southern states and you. You know I have kids are saying these elections all the time and I really don't think most of southern states for that enthusiastic about Mitt Romney met by then he had pretty much seize the nomination after Florida and so they went winning. But I really don't think their heart was there when it came time for the election as are their hearts were there but I did have an indication. When he when Mitt Romney after all the money and working Jeter could not win South Carolina that the Republican Party was and was in trouble because it's a base state. You're not gonna win the southern states if you can't turn a map South Carolina. And he got that when this out we gotta win the south and the midwest and that's where it's going to be really tough and. I was the last the last time around wasn't last time when they guided won the South Carolina GOP presidential primary with not to nominate yeah. I'll never forget roaming coming through here coming through Myrtle Beach. And Sunday at rented this big space in Myrtle Beach and tied for people are there death many nice to them for Ronnie staff and reporters Michelle Bachmann had a book signing that was when he ran for president in my the last like week for your book signing that weeks and her fifty people there. On it was the same week that Romney could and that's finally Hewitt he can't try crowd and you know this is what I gotta say they should they rubio. I mean if you look at the pictures from the Ohio state fair is Tim in the lovely way from the too because there's no one around them out yeah Donald Trump he can't walk. They literally cannot move forward I mean here's an example of what I'm talking would you bring. Rubio in here with Paul Ryan and in that whole posse everybody except treason trump. And what they've pulled a weekend all of them together 750 people chump tramples 5000. I'm alone Enron kill I mean so you know what Romney's lack of enthusiasm didn't get him over the line. You know some and I don't know what it's in his tape but you know we didn't these guys are did there in the mold of Romney mean they did is people are in the command sees them how they gonna suddenly get this groundswell once they hit the general election and. It's curious because also last time around. I hand. Just about without contradiction every viable. GOP presidential candidate either came in and sat here. Next to me in the studio or was on the telephone with me for extended periods of time I mean I had her cell phone numbers I'm. Except. One. Mid ground yet you know anything to do is talk radio now. Am sure that you know his handlers tell him hey you know you don't want to learn later he hits Tucker you and I you don't wanna go anywhere near this guy is radioactive. Homeland. And they say in the Hulk shared the nearly two dozen atomic elegant if you promised you would mention that are you saying. If you only Milch says Alistair Perry. Yeah I know it says yeah every day and then now we find out later you know rally but hey when you rip when you write to Romney care which is essentially Obama Karen knew they go out there and beat Obama up for passing you wanna pass Obama caring you know. And actually do get on that you know if you lost time last time with a rich white guy why you run another one. This is true that she know this is true but Timmy leg wouldn't sewers sure would know what a week you know I'm just I'm I'm argue on the flip side really honestly nobody knows here. There really and we don't really know what that what the winning formula is we don't you think Jan you're here analyst well. I just think it's a different political season this time. I I beverage expresses my son just found out about two days ago there because he. Not heap because he was military Marines but because his wife and my three grand children. Have been also though. And shall have health insurance for just a matter of few months they're going to be penalized 930. Something dollars for that period of time. Oh wait second no rubio just send in the commercial we are a few minutes ago that he outsmarted the Democrats and Larry has looked confused diet. I really blessed is he ended did premiums go when absorbed 1600 drugs and you know we're still on Obama care I'm curious as to how he outsmarted them and yet Obama care is still here. Then. Well. Went on the you know obamacare does like the rest of doctor yeah well I don't think it well I guess I hit hit again for the guy who Colleen and you got to win a general election. That's it and that's a completely different thing. New urban you know maybe maybe. Professor at the thing is that why he's you know almost conceding Republicans can't win in general actually ornament from Romney won. Independents and Republicans last timeouts is me magic formula however for him and this kind of brings us back around to the Electoral College that I mentioned before that I had in my area. Talk about what the GOP. And I is up again. That only got fifty states. Basically. If you go back the past four elections sometimes five depending on how you look at it. The Democrats start with a about 200 electoral votes and into seven to win aren't so I got about two under Republicans start with a about a 120. For us to win the Republicans to women got to get a lot of states that at some time in the past four times. Have voted democratic my grandson is sometimes that's not hard. I was on the stage you say but sometimes it's very hard. And and that just barely get you to take seventy. Whereas the Democrats can almost fallen to take seventy and still lose some major states. And still get to seven and that in the numbers favor them. And here I mean do you think hey it was really believed after Obama's first victory that. These days a Republican ever winning the presidency when they said that all over the place wherever it would never happen again that was done to Democrats comment is are we there now now. By an American politics is still competitive and it's still very diverse. I'm just saying for Republicans to win as much harder. And as for Democrats and I groups such stain yeah they've got to get what seventy votes yeah at all I'm sure and then GOP ASEAN 150 guests on them I think out and then we've got to win a lot of states that are really kind of Marshall mainly go to New Mexico you look at an Iowa. Well and we keep helping the bush is kept trying to win Pennsylvania will never won Pennsylvania have CenturyTel is off now is really hard. To get the numbers to work together to get two to seventy for Republicans and meg gonna have to go talk to some Democrats. They involve form and that's the point. That's the same time there's this sound there's these good roughly thirty million white people who literally sat out TO bomber race fits in now. He's brought an end 10 here's the thing though they're Republicans are so busy trying to win five million Hispanic person they have ignored just mass of ice block out there. That the Democrats you Democrats were out there I mean they worry fewer women under a bridge tested they were scrape you up. Giving you a fifth and taking you polls and they work don't tell real you lest you know I know Democrats pushing they did they had divided into that they would give icu and she went. And unlike his death toll Jewish Charlie on how you doing here. And played at Delaware and please a lot of mud and heroin into burba. They. Well don't forget don't forget about the death records it looked nursing homes are just finally there's an eighteen did you she'd been well and Seattle woman of the polling place and and not Ohio who voted for Obama six times because there's. And members get the ball until you're allowed to do. It lets you happy meals skip your morning the kids whose I one thing. Now trumpeting and decide those twenty million baby just middle we never tried nice little disappointed with the way people think of flat and hang out. And it's in a million illegal and we don't get it in a move friends not gonna happen now and I gonna lose again. And content I'm just saying I hope you. Hey yeah. You don't like you Obama campaign I mean you're in people's we they people's video games. The only sending messages to does have people young and they're alive they're not really a wide and why Democrats and I'm trying to. Presser light years ahead of us on the media. That's just that's just facts. In fact as three times and the social media stuff and not only out. Computer and yeah I don't know rocket stomp my mom Palo Alto and I rest I mean trust Reynolds social media campaign that he's doing much better ads in Millard mean. At least for now I wanna talk about it too when we come back a little bit about territorial when Dow Steven guy that is Trump's campaign method to reduce. I love what this guys do I know he's an employee hell yeah is there at least AM. They're they're turning this campaign season into an it has more entertainment value than usual. Yes and who doesn't go by really that the presidency is having fun not to point out there having fun. That's some manpower. Yeah yeah. That it's. We'll be back just a few minutes. Sorry Tony Ortiz. Created. And no we are back keep your host. The but I'm accurate question. Yeah I did and and I forgotten what it was during neo Karzai braver than isn't one of the disadvantages of my. Age what are we talking about four and I wanted to ask about a debate. The suns tonight at nine. All yeah I I was it I was curious and this is sitting this is off the track but I know that to a professor Davis amounted to gear up. More intensive appalling Dana. And I wanted to make it add a question to the questionnaire for me this camera a hypothetical. And that would be if Nikki Haley can run for a third term. What would you vote for her that case you're that would have all this there are small window. Give me that's a good Democrat. Sorry that I did have a press column last week he wanted to talk to me after the Obama. State of the Union Address right here failures bots out her and I know. It's understood that since. I could figure out which were a little more than. A so I don't think they'll call me back they're what their lives out there was a little different survey kind of message does that was delivered wedges. All you conservatives all you Bible thumper value from bitter wingers with your guns and your religion then sit down and Shana. Yeah that's right I'm like Barack Obama oh really I'm a lot better because I'm Indian and an email that but that's about it but the well maybe luck she may be out there your truck is enough and I. She's sheepishly definitely has a chip in the big game that day there's no doubt on the RNC I don't know she's yet we we keep hearing on these rumors floating around in this is going to be somebody's. Up on somebody's ticket. Certainly not Donald Trump Plaza of the it is that viable or is that flak from her PR machine. I think it's flagged for a PR machine myself and I think there are people who pick up on new Washington because there's so. Into the multi cultural things right those are the most most reporters I talked to come from Washington and are asking a matter. And I had to sign well you know there's not much of a record here when you look at some other governors. And they know consensus when does that stop yeah. De LA were. So why should we worry. ODs in on me a text line 71307. The dams are the media. They GOP in the RNC bows down to them instead of exposing member of the frauds they are in Santa Cruz and trump they get it. Are in C doesn't. This one professor Dave for a comment you made the correction last time we lost when they boring. Rich white guy that we're. This time we're trying to run an energetic. Rich white guy big difference there and that's lame duck now mama Africa and and a as for our governor. I feel Nicky will endorse Jeb improve food or rubio. Gen BO YH. And as Trump's massive lead in South Carolina suggesting a repudiation of Haley and her move toward the last. I just don't think that trump has a massively in north and South Carolina man and I'm not trying to say that I don't think anybody has some massively. Just because they think I'll polls around and they are for this early look. When did women Nikki Haley win the governorship she wore white ten days out when Yahoo!'s and dress spent. Endorsed Clinton bash Sarah Palin. We make up our minds righted it and look at what happened four years ago then when they Gingrich so I mean I don't think that these early polls are that meaningful. You know I'm curious if you sane and in the way you phrased it because in my experience. Here in the essay. And this this is a walk up state by that I mean. You might not have much of a pre sale for your big rock and roll concert Sunday night of the show where were you at all I'm going to sing the star. Don't consider I economic got a a small state now there's a lot of connections that don't. Reflect on TV or radio and I just think that that we can never tell this certainly. But I get lots of calls from the national press you think a month that is surely Israel means we violence placing it really and I'm just going through it now they'll begin the hard in the next ten days or shall we go on the field on the tenth. So doesn't that may mean not tonight's debate yeah bundle one. Almost immediately preceding this here in South Carolina hasn't doesn't that give it more have to volley Mac I really think it does and if you look back four years ago we have evidence of that when you out at Monday Gingrich down there have assured I think it is I think you're Israel critical here. So I'm a man and I don't think we make of her mind so the last minute and a lot of times more fear of pollster that is in this nuts to have to do that yeah as. They're just changing like crazy and you only have four knives to try and track it. How what they told you yesterday may not have any validity zigzag that well you're you're right about about four years ago as I was in that auditorium and Charleston when I'm when Newt. You could feel the momentum for a shift all the him. In the answered one question that. Yeah I remember. I won their but I was what I am really amazed I just felt there's a tremendous challenge briefings and are now. Well you know I remember let's talk about personalities here they'll we know there Romney was a bit cold it was a as a as a presidential. Candidate but our but I noticed it I think if they the base of which I was president. During the breaks Newt would come down into the audience he was about the only one that did that rush and Newt had a connection with the people that I think the mainstream media never expected. I had it for a long time in common in men and Georgie had been over here allotted and closes several times. He is an amazing way to connect with people and it is great ideas he just had that. Certain other problems that kept him away that's right but this is a great. Energizer Rooney had united who else was that way it was Reagan knowing exactly when you when you met when Reagan. He acted as if you were the most important person and then that within the realm and he was gonna talk to during the course of that week. That's exactly right and you know Bobby. Everybody tells me that many out there are her biography on him and I would talk to people they would also the same thing out excellent book about this is an amazing. Why it is somebody can have that ability. But you know given that I still don't understand the shrill missile of Hillary and how she is going to have a mass appeal this time. Bit bit perhaps she might have had before. I don't think she had a and a massive fail I think she just has a little more appeal than the other guy. And then again at this point what difference does that really may that that if I. The countrywide anybody that goes to see. Thirteen hours the secret soldiers have been Gaza. If they would if if they would see that film they would. Consign themselves to the nether regions if they ever. Guess it's sort Hillary Clinton again make us not into it in bills itself as a nonpolitical filmed a boy if it doesn't make an indictment I've never seen. That's right I was surprised that movie made Hollywood this time gambler but I am not that there's just some producers that are having somebody else start their own car Ford yeah. Brilliant so that your absolutely. I won't come the next hour we'll hear from Tom Jensen public policy polling he's got some new members. My badge I was going on in Iowa and what he expects to go on in South Carolina we'll talk to test men need to use an earlier hour. And freedom day specials here. And of course take you were phone calls to 1803471063. 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